Digital-First Leadership

Ep.34- Be a Podcast Guest, Speak to a Captive Audience with Stewart Townsend

Richard Bliss Episode 34

If you want to find a platform to share your message with the world, look no further than Podcast Hawk, co-founded by the dynamic Stewart Townsend, who joins me today on Digital First Leadership. While LinkedIn is an excellent platform for sharing your ideas, nothing beats having a genuine conversation with your audience, and that's exactly what a podcast offers. Whether you're a solopreneur, an author, a public speaker, or an executive, getting your message in front of the right people can be daunting. Fortunately, PodcastHawk.com has you covered. Their SaaS service promotes you as a guest on hundreds of podcasts without the hassle of doing it all yourself. With a simple subscription fee, you'll have access to around 2.5 million active podcasts and a captive audience eager to hear what you have to say. Tune in and discover the secrets to becoming an exceptional podcast guest.


Host: Richard Bliss

Guest: Stewart Townsend


Podcast Manager: Kimberly Smith



Announcer: 

Welcome to Digital-First Leadership, the podcast that focuses on helping leaders and teams understand how to master the language of social media in today's digital-first world. 


Richard Bliss: 

Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Richard Bliss, you’re listening to Digital First Leadership. My guest today is a gentleman I’ve enjoyed getting to know here a little bit. His name is Stewart Townsend. Stewart is the Chief Marketing Officer and co-founder of Podcast Hawk, and I’ve invited him on the show because, in today’s world of digital-first leadership, getting your voice heard, in today’s crowded, busy, noisy world, is incredibly important. And as many of you know, as you’ve listened to the show, I believe that your digital identity now establishes your credibility long before people meet you in person. So, having Stewart on the show, I think, is an opportunity for us to talk about this concept of hosting or being part of a guest on podcasting, and Stewart has an interesting platform about that. So, let’s talk about that. Stewart, thanks for joining me.


Stewart Townsend:

Hey, cool, thanks Richard. Thanks for having us on the show in this lovely Spring day in England. I have to get that in. I have to get that on record. We’ve got only one day of it.


Richard Bliss: 

Yes. And if we weren’t on video right now, so the show is audio only, but if I didn’t see shadows on the wall, I would think you were faking it by just turning the lights.


Stewart Townsend:

Fake it until you make it.


Richard Bliss: 

Yeah, absolutely. Well, it’s a pleasure to have you here. I’m here, obviously, in the San Fransisco Bay area. You are – where are you located? You’re somewhere in the UK.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, so, I’m in a place called Lancashire, which is about 50 miles north of Manchester. For anybody that know’s football, I’m just near the Lake District, so. Beautiful part of the world. Not London, I hasten to add, not London.


Richard Bliss: 

I have to admit, one of the first times I went to visit a vendor in the UK, the early days, and then they told me where they were. And I think they were out in Redding. And I was going to have to take the train, and I was like, “Oh, I’m not doing that. I’m an American. I don’t even know how to take the train.” Now, since then, I go to Redding every year. And I’m planning another trip to Redding this May. People are like, “Why?” But, you know, just every year I end up in Redding. So, it’s kind of a fun place to go.


Stewart Townsend:

It’s a nostalgic trip.


Richard Bliss: 

It is a nostalgic trip. So, Stewart, we’re here to talk about. Now, let’s give a little bit of background because you’ve been in the industry for quite some time. That’s one of the things you and I had in common. So, let’s explain kind of how you got here because you have a deep background in technology, in the channel, and in other ways that you have built up your expertise in this space.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, so, good job we’re not on video. Else you’d be able to see my gray hair coming through. Yeah, I started life working in pre-sales, and then built my startup ecosystem. A little comical. So microsystems, depending on you age, you will know or not. But the best, me and Richard were talking before the show, it was the best company ever. I would have not left so. Unfortunately, Oracle acquired them. So, I stayed there for a little while doing, I hate to say the dirty – I was doing Sales Oracle. I’m sorry. I apologize. And then, thankfully, a friend of mine rescued me and I went to a big data company and launched one of the biggest data events globally. And we were reselling <inaudible>. Hopped over to a company called ZenDesk, who were 250 people, created an IPO, built up a 10 million dollar channel business there. And then got a bit tired of being on planes, trains, and automobiles, and decided to leave and find my way. A new direction. Made some errors on the way, we won’t talk about that today, but some bizarre stuff. And then set up a consulting firm around channel and how to build channel for SaaS companies. And out of all of that I always wanted to build a startup. But, I’m a very good procrastinator. Good ideas and lots of excuses. And so I found a really good cofounder that had already started it. And we came up with this concept of Podcast Hawk, of how to promote our businesses, also how to promote our ethos and our knowledge by being a guest on podcasts. Because, we both attempted to run podcasts, and being a host and running that process, full of admiration to you Richard, it is hard. It is difficult.


Richard Bliss: 

It is, and listen, many listeners of this show came over from my previous podcast, Funding the Dream, that I ran for nearly 10 years. And hosting a podcast can be difficult. Finding guests, but also, if you have something to say, sometimes it can be hard finding a platform to say it on. Now, my audience knows that I talk a lot about LinkedIn. We talk about that platform and the usage of that. But one of the best ways for people to get to know you, your message, is to hear your voice and be able to have a conversation around topics that are important to them and the learning audience. So, one of the challenges that I see a lot of people have, whether it’s, I work with you know, book publishers, an author who wants to publish, their book’s coming out and they want to be on a show. Uh, solopreneuers, public speakers, executives who have a product, it’s either a small startup or a large organization. I’ve got to admit, the larger your organization, sometimes the easier to get on the show, because the podcast host wants access to your network. But, when you’re one of these other individuals trying to find and grow that presence – maybe you’re not a big, known-name company, and that’s one of the things you’re trying to do – finding an audience that’s willing to have you spend a little bit of time listening can be a bit of a challenge, can’t it?


Stewart Townsend:

Oh, yeah, most definitely. And I think, I mean, when I had my Sum business card, I could open doors.


Richard Bliss: 

Absolutely.


Stewart Townsend:

Or when I couldn’t open doors, I relied on my network to open those doors. And it is a challenge to go down that route. But, you’re totally right in terms of building that awareness or that brand identity. Sometimes you have to reinvent yourself. But podcasts are a great way of targeting that highly focused listener audience who want to know about what you’re going to talk about. Cuz you already know that by the show that you want to be on. You’re not going to go onto – I love cars, it’s my passion, but I’m not going to go and talk on a show about motorbikes, about cars, cuz I just get lynched. And so the same with podcasts, isn’t it? You have to know by being on that show, you can share your voice to that audience and it will resonate.


Richard Bliss: 

Ok, so, before we go on, what’s your favorite car?


Stewart Townsend:

It’s an Ultima GTR, I can say that’s my favorite car. And I’ll do some signals. I’ll send you something afterwards. Ultima GTR, running a 5.7 short block, weighs 900 kilos.


Richard Bliss: 

Have you owned one?


Stewart Townsend:

I have one as a project at the moment. It’s being ready for racing this year.


Richard Bliss: 

I drive a SMART. I drive a SMART.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, but your in San Francisco, aren’t you? So you need…


Richard Bliss: 

I am. I bought my first one, I’ve owned three.


Stewart Townsend:

Wow.


Richard Bliss: 

I saw my first one in Amsterdam, and just fell in love. And then I got to get up close in London, when I was there, and fell in love before they’d come to the US. And I just, I’m very tall. I’m six feet, two inches tall. So, when I get out of it, and my brother is six feet, four inches tall, and when we get out of it, I’ve had people say, “That looks like a clown car, with these two…” I’ve got to tell you, so since we’re talking about cars, I’m traveling across the United States in my SMART car from San Francisco to Salt Lake City. It’s approximately seven, about ten hours. 700 miles. And I’m going along <sound effect> pedaling really fast, right? <sound effect> And I’m blowing by all of these pickup trucks. These farmers, ranchers. And I pull over to a rest stop, and I go in, come out. I got like three of these big pickup trucks surrounding my little SMART car. I’m like, Uh oh, I’m in trouble.


Stewart Townsend:

Oh. Yeah.


Richard Bliss: 

The cowboy hats, the boots. I walk up and they’re like, “Son, how fast does this thing go? You blew by us…” I was doing about 95. And yeah, I blew by them and they wanted to see it. They sat in it, we opened up the boot, because that’s where the…


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, the engine, yeah.


Richard Bliss: 

The engine’s there. And so, yeah, we had a lot of fun with that.  So, yeah, we can talk about cars.


Stewart Townsend:

There was a car show I watched and they took a SMART car, and they didn’t really know a lot about European cars. I can’t remember which one it was now. But they put bigger wheels on it and turned into like a bit of a golf buggy-type thing.


Richard Bliss: 

Right.


Stewart Townsend:

And they were trying to, they couldn’t get it working, and it was like, Yep, yeah.


Richard Bliss:

And, by the way, Tesla used the SMART car by putting, when they needed to convince the investors that this was going to work, they swapped out the internal’s engine of a SMART car and put in batteries, and didn’t change anything. So, the people who were stepping, they wanted to take them for a little test drive.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah.


Richard Bliss:

So they put them in a little SMART car without changing anything internally, as far as cosmetically, and then, can you imagine? A Tesla in the size of a SMART car, and one of those guys got… it was the selling point that this thing could actually really go.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, that would really, I mean Tesla’s go, I mean go Poof!


Richard Bliss:

Can you imagine? I mean, 1800 pound SMART car with a…


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, just, there’s no weight in that at all.


Richard Bliss:

Anyway, there we go. There was a little segway that we had.


Stewart Townsend:

A little segway there.


Richard Bliss:

Just to talk about. Ok, so, here’s a question I have for you, because you’re dealing with podcasts. If I was to go on a, I’ve been on many, but, if a member of my audience wanted to go on a podcast, what would be some tips that you would give them? To be an effective podcast guest.


Stewart Townsend:

So, I always look at this way of, I’m sorry listeners, I’m being blunt, is have you actually got something interesting to say? A story. And I say that respectfully, because, what happens is, from an exec perspective, as you know I worked in execs and done all that, and they think they’ve got a story to tell, but they haven’t. Cuz they’ve worked at Oracle for twelve years, and they know Oracle, and it’s like, nobody wants to know about that. Let’s talk about cars, let’s talk about how you progressed or did some… and they have a challenge in telling stories. I think that’s the number one tip is, do you have something interesting that people would learn from you and go away go, Oh I learned something new.


Richard Bliss:

So, let’s go off of that question, because when I talk to executives, you know what I hear mostly is, Well, I don’t have anything interesting to say.


Stewart Townsend:

It’s good they’re being honest, then.


Richard Bliss:

Well, they are. Because they’re honest with me. And then I say, Well, that’s not probably true.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah.


Richard Bliss:

So, how do you find that, how do you discover within yourself that interesting thing to share?


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, so I sort of dig into it if I write some content or talking about this potential client or client story is, you must have something, you can’t just go on through your life 9 to 5. There’s some contextual aspect there. So what do you do over the weekends? How have you got there? So, you know, for me, I left school, I washed cars, and then I got a job selling steel. How is that related to IT? Well, I learned some skills, a skillset from that. I didn’t come from a background of X, Y, Z. So you have to dig into it to get them to bring out the interesting stuff of, well actually you put some skills to use, or you do some charity work outside, or you do interesting things. It’s not all about the job that you do and how you do it. Cuz you just do that really well, that’s clear. But it’s the background, or the leading up to that, or the activities that you do that could be interesting.


Richard Bliss:

Yeah, you make a good point. Seldom is it the information that the person is sharing that’s really going to be the takeaway, It’s more about the person who is sharing. And so I tell people, Look make yourself interesting, and then the topic you represent will become interesting. Whether that’s your company, your product, or whatever that might be.


Stewart Townsend:

It’s the inspirations to, if you can inspire others by going, “Well, actually I starting doing this,” or has learning difficulties, or went this way. It’s like, “Ah, if he can do that, I can do it.”


Richard Bliss:

Right.


Stewart Townsend:

I mean, what my ex-wife school’s for helping children with learning difficulties. They’ve got, you know, three-letter acronyms. But basically, a lot of them think that they’ll never get a job or they’ll work in the biscuit factory, cuz it’s quite a sort of <inaudible>. And it’s like, you can do anything. I recently, oh sorry I’m going to, I’m going a little bit.


Richard Bliss:

You’re just fine.


Stewart Townsend:

Once a year I go into college where I talk about how to build a business for five dollars, even though we’re in pounds I use dollars. So, I talk to about 30, 40 eighteen year olds. So, it’s about how to build a business, doing print on-demand, how to promote it, and all that sort of activity. I’ve been doing it for years. Never had anybody take it up. And this year, a young chap came up to me afterwards and said, “I was going to do something else, but now I’m doing print on-demand.” I was like, Oh, ok, get over here... He set up a print on-demand website, he’s done his own design dues in MindJourney, he’s got it up and running, he’s got his five dollar domain, and he’s out there publishing it. And he’s publishing it across the college and getting sales. It’s like, I’ve hit one person. My life is complete. It’s just that inspiration that if someone else can do it, you can do it. You just sometimes need that little clips or kick up the ass.


Richard Bliss:

Absolutely, and that’s what it is, is that particularly if you are somebody who’s accomplished something, whether you’ve written a book, whether you have <inaudible> at a company, there is something there that is inspiring that other people want to be able to have done. And so, I like that. Make sure you have something to say. So, I’m going to be on a show, I’m going to be a guest, what would be another tip that I need to do to make sure I don’t make a fool of myself.


Stewart Townsend:

Again, the other element we talked about, I’ve got quite a fancy setup. Cuz through COVID I had nothing else to do apart from go to auctions online and buy stuff. But I always say, do not ever ever, please don’t tune into a podcast in a cafe with some two dollar earphones on. Not the right environment. One, you won’t be in the right mindset. So, clear your mind and get ready. Research the show you’re being on, be respectful. Don’t just turn up <inaudible>  and think it’s all going to be ok. But have the right environment. Because otherwise, is because the host has to work harder to do the editing, to try and draw out the facts, you’re not focused. And they’ve spent time, they’ve incurred this as inviting you as a guest so be respectful of the show that you’re being on and be prepared. Else you won’t get any more. Literally your knowledge and trust may be the best thing in the world, but if that comes across badly, no other host is going to invite you onto their show. Because it’s like, Well what’s the point you’re wasting my time?


Richard Bliss:

Right. Right. Ok, let’s talk about, I have something to say, I think I’ve got myself a microphone and a setup and I’m respectful. Let’s talk about Podcast Hawk. Because I was fascinated by this concept from a personal reason. So, explain the concept behind and what is the ultimate outcome of Podcast Hawk. What’s the goal of the platform?


Stewart Townsend:

Yep, so we’re a software as a service. And literally we just make it easier to automate getting on podcasts as a guest. So the idea is you can reduce time by using the platform to search for podcasts you want to be on, that are actually broadcasting. They’re not redundant. They didn’t go dead two years ago. They’re in a certain category or a keyword you’re looking for. I’m a co-author, I’m launching a kickstarter. I’m going to go on a relevant podcast around that. And then also we’ve built a campaign tool. Which means essentially we send emails through your email on your behalf. So, Stewart at StewartTownsend.com or whatever it may be. I’ll send those emails out and then do a followup if there isn’t a reply. So on the other side, I’m not on the host side, but as a guest, it takes a lot of time to research to find shows. Then when you do find them, the may not be live because it died after 10 or 15 shows. Those that you do find, you have to find the contact details for the host. And then you send some emails around that. And again, we give that ability of customizing that. So you can listen to the show, you can see the shownotes, you can get the soundbites, you can get more in depth aspect. So it’s not there to spam or thow them these emails. It’s about I want to be on your show to talk about marketing, or to share my story, I’m passionate about cars. I can go and find, let’s go and do that and do it really simply. That’s it’s core. Dead simple. Does nothing else. There’s no other rocket science beind it from that aspect. And yeah.


Richard Bliss:

Interesting. So, I’m going to ask a behind the scenes technical… So Podcast Hawk is going out and finding all of these podcasts and basically indexing them and making them available so that if I sign up for the Podcast Hawk service as a speaker, you already have it indexed and categorized. All of these podcasts that I can potentially be on. Is that what I’m hearing?


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, so we’ve got 2.5 million podcasts at the moment with social handles, with contact details, and then we’ll also have worknet tricks and some of the data coming in shortly as well. So you can look at, cuz we approach this from a lead generation marketing aspect. Podcasts are a marketing channel. So, if you want to be a guest and want to spread your brand, and your voice, and build you digital identity, what better than doing it to a targeted audience? And parameter. And that targeted audience you may want to email, but also you may want to reach out to the host and send them a tweet or go on LinkedIn and post. So we provide all of that information in one place.


Richard Bliss:

Interesting. So, as I’m looking at this, then, how does it, so how, so where does the revenue come from? Cuz that’s always the interesting thing. So, is the revenue coming from the guests, from me, or is it coming from the podcast that you’re having, you’re picking up?


Stewart Townsend:

It’s coming from the subscriber. So, you know, say I was a, I’d approach you as a Podcast Hawk customer, it’s a subscriber. So it starts at $49 a month. It gives you access to find X amount of host details to reach out to for that. And then it goes up to $89. So, it’s not an expensive service, and it’s 30-day contracts. So you can do for 30 days, 60, or 90 days, and then cancel. You may have got enough shows by then, or your happy, or you come back six months later. So, we’ve had customers that use us for 12 months plus. There are some customers that come in and just use us for three months, because they’ve got a book launch, or they’re launching a kickstarter fund and they want to get some awareness for that. So, they’ll preempt it and use the platform to get some outreach that way. So, it’s totally flexible. 


Richard Bliss:

But you had, you have a, yes it is. And, I gotta tell you that I’m kind of excited because, Stewart, as soon as we get off this call, I’m signing up. I’m just telling you.


Stewart Townsend:

My job is done. My job is done.


Richard Bliss:

Your job is done. I’m signing up.


Stewart Townsend:

I’m a channel sales person. I’m not even direct. I do relationships.


Richard Bliss:

And then we’re going to have you back on the show and we’re going to talk about my experience with the service. I think that’s a great idea, don’t you?


Stewart Townsend:

Yep. That’s perfect. That’s what I’m looking for. Case studies and sort of how it works and feedback. You know? It’s very important.


Richard Bliss:

Absolutely. So now, I have another question, because I’m on your website. I’m looking and it says “extra credit bundles.” Help me understand what that means.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah. So, if you’re, so for instance, we didn’t have this before. We had a chap approach us and he was doing a book launch, and he wanted to go really quickly to get on podcasts. So, if you look at our subscription service, per month you get, you know, 25 credits or 50 credits or 100 credits. And credits are related to the contact details of the podcasts. But if you want to go really quick and you want to be on a couple hundred podcasts, you could buy, well, you’d have to do that over a couple of months. But you may not have time for that. So, there’s the concept of buying extra bundles of credit, so if you’re running a marketing campaign come Christmas…


Richard Bliss:

Right.


Stewart Townsend:

Or <inaudible>, you go, I want to reach out to 200 podcasts. I don’t want to wait 2 months or X amount of build out. I need to do it now because I’ve got a deadline. Because you know what it’s like as well. Some podcasts you could get on in six days, and some it could be six months.


Richard Bliss:

Sure. Yeah, yeah.


Stewart Townsend:

And some it could be twelve months. So, it’s that time. It gives individuals or agents that ability to go really quickly from that side. And that was actually, I’ve just written a case study about this. Most of our features have been designed by our customers. We are not very clever. We see the obvious, after we’ve been told it.


Richard Bliss:

You sound like Microsoft.


Stewart Townsend:

I know, we are. We are. We’re Microsoft. And that’s a good call. Yeah, one of our customers said about that, it was something they wanted to do because they were building some momentum, and was like, I can’t do it at this rate. So, ok, yeah. So a lot of our customers.


Richard Bliss:

And so, I’m seeing another thing. Custom Signatures. Because you have a Starter, a Promotion, and a Super Guest, and the Custom Signagure seems to be one of the differentiators there. What is a Custom Signature?


Stewart Townsend:

So, campaigns or sending email, it may be that your user says, Well actually I’ve got a full of… like me, I’m channel as a service, my consulting business, but also I’m Podcast Hawk. I don’t want to go, or I’m StewartTownsend.com, I don’t want to go on car shows as Podcast Hawk. Because they’re going, What’s this software company weirdo. When you send your email out, we allow you to change the signature that the email’s going, the ascent. So, I can someone to car shows and I’m Stewart Townsend, car nerd. Or I can send it to you and I’m Stewart from Podcast Hawk.


Richard Bliss:

That’s sweet.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah.


Richard Bliss:

Oh, I like that one. I like that one.


Stewart Townsend:

Again, customer feature. Customer feature.


Richard Bliss:

No, that’s great because so many of the, I work with enterprise sales people. I work with executives, I work with a lot of public, professional speakers who are looking to get out there and be seen talking. And the challenge is that oftentimes they have multiple hats. Sometimes they have a day job. Sometimes they talk about two different things. So this is a perfect feature. Well, this has been great. I gotta tell you, Stewart, when I came into this conversation, I was very interested. I gotta tell you, I’m coming out of this conversation very excited.


Stewart Townsend:

That’s good. That’s really good.


Richard Bliss:

That doesn’t happen very often on my show.


Stewart Townsend:

No, I’m really pleased. That’s really good. It’s good feedback. Because I can say last year, a lot of the features and such that we put into the product were designed or driven by customer feedback when it was onboard and such. And it was like, Why don’t you do this? And the trouble is now, we’ve got so many of them, it’s like ok. But no, good, good.


Richard Bliss:

Alright, so I’m just going to tell the audience, what we’re talking about, my guest is Stewart Townsend. We’re talking about Podcast Hawk, and you can find it at PodcastHawk.com. That’s Hawk like the bird.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah.


Richard Bliss:

PodcastHawk.com and what it is is the opportunity for you to basically use their platform, their SaaS service to promote you as a guest on hundreds, if you want thousands, of podcasts without you having to do the work yourself. It’s a standard subscription fee for access to a certain number of podcasts. And for those of you who are solopreneurs, who have a book coming out, who are professional speakers, who have a kickstarted project. I know a lot of my fans are kickstarter fans. This is a perfect way to get in front of an audience. Stewart, here’s why this is interesting to me. One, I work with so many executives, helping them try to figure out how to build their authentic voice.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah.


Richard Bliss:

But, number two, something that I teach my sales teams, is to go look for their target prospect i f they’ve ever been on a podcast


Stewart Townsend:

Oh yeah, I can’t tell you about that yet.


Richard Bliss:

Right.


Stewart Townsend:

But we’ve, you’ve got a really good point, Yeah.


Richard Bliss:

Because there’s a, because oftentimes when a salesperson wants to reach out to a prospect or something, and that prospect hasn’t been very active on LinkedIn or social media, if they’re a person of influence or have something to say, they often have appeared as a guest on a podcast. And so, being able to look those guests up and find them, and say, Oh I want to follow up on that person. Following them on social media, finding them on LinkedIn. Those are the key things. So, you just got me excited about this.


Stewart Townsend:

Yeah, exactly. I was going to say, the other nugget, again coming from the sort of sales background that we do is, we talked about this, I want to build as a key feature is that component. Because when you go into a cold prospect, listening to them on a podcast, you can get, not personal information, but nuggets of clarity that’s like, Oh Stewart worked at Oracle for a year, did he? He did this.


Richard Bliss:

Yep.


Stewart Townsend:

And he hated it. Oh, ok I can put something in there that relates to it or sort of leverage it and use it from that side. And it’s the things you won’t find on a profile or in a blog post or whatever.


Richard Bliss:

Nope.


Stewart Townsend:

It’s just because they said it, it’s, you know, it’s truthful and it’s honest.


Richard Bliss:

You also get something from their voice and from their inflection and from their approach and, right?


Stewart Townsend:

Yep.


Richard Bliss:

That sounds like somebody I could have a beer with.


Stewart Townsend:

When I say Sun Microsystems, I’m upbeat, I’m positive. When I say Oracle, my shoulders slug.


Richard Bliss:

We can’t beat up on Oracle too much.


Stewart Townsend:

No, no, no, but it’s, it is, it’s that tone of voice gives inflection about what they really think about a certain subject or they’re passionate about it. And it gives us insight around it.


Richard Bliss:

Yes. Absolutely. And this is great. I asked you what we could talk about that you would find passionate and a podcast talk was it. And I can certainly feel it, and I have been infected by your passion. So, Stewart thank you so much for, thank you so much for joining on the show.


Stewart Townsend:

No, perfect, thank you for the invite. It’s been really great.


Richard Bliss:

You’ve been listening to Digital First Leadership. My guest has been Stewart Townsend. Stewart is the cofounder of PodcastHawk.com. I think a service that will be really valuable to those of you who are listening. You can find it at PodcastHawk.com. Stewart, how can they find you if they want to be in touch with you?


Stewart Townsend:

So, you can find me through PodcastHawk.com and go in on the contact form there, you can find me on Twitter @StewartTownsend. One thing I will say Richard, there’s a very good looking actor called Stewart Townsend that comes up in Google search. I am not him. Sorry. I wish I was. 


Richard Bliss:

Oooh.


Stewart Townsend:

For everybody out there. But search Stewart Townsend, you’ll find me in flowery shirts and car-related stuff on Twitter, LinkedIn, everywhere that’s ever existed.


Richard Bliss:

Perfect. Perfect. Stewart, this has been awesome. Thanks again.


Stewart Townsend:

No, perfect. Thank you very much.



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